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Wed Mar 10
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Parks letter sent by a 19 year old college student |
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Dear Senators,
I am outraged and horrified that New York State is considering closing our parks. As a young person on Long Island, I know what it is like to have our outdoor activity options limited. The parks are the only place where my friends and I can go to relax, be outside in Nature, and get some physical activity, free of charge. I frequently go for walks, hikes, bike rides and horseback riding in the parks, whether it's with my friends, my family or one particular companion. The parks are a vital part of Long Island's atmosphere - they provide a critical link between society and the environment that doesn't exist most places on Long Island. Furthermore, they are a wonderful conduit for introducing young children to the beauty and value of nature. The parks are especially valuable to families looking for a beautiful, fun thing to do together on a budget. Movies, shopping trips, dining out and amusement parks are all expensive; parks are supposed to be there whenever citizens want to just pack a picnic lunch and enjoy the environment of the place they call home. Without our parks, Long Island just wouldn't be the same - many Senators are worried about the exodus out of New York State and especially off of Long Island, but, believe me, as a young college student, closing the parks is definitely not a good way to stop all the educated young people from fleeing as quickly as we can. The parks were always my favorite thing about New York, and I know I am not the only one.
Finally, If we are to learn anything at all from the current global climate change crisis, it should be that, for future generations to survive at all, human beings need to be closer to and have a greater understanding of the natural world we inhabit. If there aren't any parks and wild places for the public to visit at their will, how are people supposed to learn this message?
As your constituent and a voting member of the community, I urge to please do everything you can to keep the budget from passing on April first and to keep our parks open.
Thank you for your time and consideration. This issue is of utmost importance to me and to many people in the region.
Sincerely,
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From Janine-
It does pay to send them to college! I might ad here that she sent this letter to everyone on the mail list that was posted earlier on the board.
03/10/2010 05:57:03 PM
[ PonyGirls ]
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NYS Park Closures - Pre-Rally Meeting |
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Have you ever used a park? 
Would you like to use it again?
Are you angry they want to close our parks? 
Then help us organize the mother of all rallies!
Tom Mele is sponsering a pre-rally organizational meeting March 26 at the Sheraton Hotel in Hauppauge NY, open to people who head up groups that would really lose out if the parks close.
Check out the IHA site: http://www.isliphorsemensassociation.com/ for contact information
and updates.
03/10/2010 07:03:12 AM
[ Salli ]
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Hidden Pond NPBA March 20th we added Jackpot Barrels |
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NPBA show at Hidden Pond March 20th 11:00 am start with warm up poles than Money Poles. We will add Jackpot Barrels right after the NPBA money run with warm ups barrels first and than Jackpot Barrels. Come on out and either get some practice doing warm ups or run for the money. Spring is looking good after this long Winter.
Our NPBA futurity is August 14th with $1,000 added for 5 and under horses that have not competed before December 2009 .
03/09/2010 07:11:09 PM
[ Rita ]
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Craig Stevens Classical Equitation Clinic March 25 – March 27 |
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Only 2 riding spots left – anyone wishing to ride in the clinic please e-mail me right away. I also have some space left in the theory lecture if you need to reserve a place. Reminder: Craig requires all auditors to attend the Theory Lecture.
Please see my ad in the Classifieds and the Events page for more information.
03/09/2010 04:55:48 PM
[ Naturegirl ]
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IHA DISCOUNT FOR NE EXPO! |
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The Islip Horseman's Association is very excited about the NE Expo coming up. This is a two day event that will feature many sights and demnstrations. OF course as always there will be the parade of breeds on Sunday and many other demonstrations from English jumping, Dressage, Gymkhana, and bridleless Western Pleasure.
Please stop by our booth while you are there. We will have a booth with a running slide show and plenty of information about our club. We are also looking for members to help "man" the booth for a few hours here and there. Please contact me at 631-924-5056 if you can help.
Also, don't forget that if you are buying your tickets online for the expo you can get a discount on your tickets by typing in IHA at the checkout.
03/09/2010 09:48:41 AM
[ draftcrazy ]
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Aaaawwww Kat! |
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I believe what comes around goes around so rest assured you'll be taken care of ,too, when the time comes!
03/08/2010 05:44:11 PM
[ hhh ]
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Anyone have any fertile Easter Egger eggs I could hatch |
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I have a broody hen who wants to hatch out some eggs deperately.
I am looking for some fertile Easter Egger eggs to see if she can do it (and add some color to my egg basket)the eggs do not have to be pure EE (my chickens are all mixes as it is), I just want some blue, pink,olive etc.. eggs. I am willing to pay say $20 for 4-6 eggs and would prefer local to shipping through the mail.
Thank you for your time
03/08/2010 04:51:24 PM
[ trinity ]
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Rubs |
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Cocoa butter works as well as bag balm if its bleeding you might want to use nolvasen(sp?) good luck
03/08/2010 03:25:41 PM
[ Jenna Santaniello ]
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stall needed ASAP |
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I dont know where to post , so feel free to move it if need be..
I am looking for a stall for a 18 yr old gelding- full board with turn out.walking distance to
trails.nassau county or nassau/suffolk border. i am a conscientious boarder and would help out
around the barn as needed.. dr2202@aol.com
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Check our classifieds under Training Lessons and Boarding..good luck!!!!
03/08/2010 12:58:44 PM
[ Dr2202 ]
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RUBS |
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I'm taking care of a gelding and he has a blanket rub and I've been rubbing on an ointment called corona but anything with tea oil or aloe should work great.
03/08/2010 12:51:44 PM
[ Gracie Girl ]
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ANNABEL |
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I'm posting this up for my friend. She is looking for a mare called Annabel. She is 15.2 hands and her breed is a Morgan dark in color. We think she is about twelve years old. We heard she was sold. If anyone has info on her we would like to know that she had gotten and good home and would like to go see her some time.She was a great horse. Thanks so much.
03/08/2010 12:13:35 PM
[ Gracie Girl ]
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Looking for someone to ride with |
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Hi, I'm looking for someone to ride with in the park on the Islip side of Connetquot park , my horse is on Deer path rd. (in between sportmen and allwood). Your horse would need to be bomb-proof because I'm trying to get my horse to be calm in the park and thats hard to do when your out there alone(or when your with another nervous horse) . If your interested please email me , thanks
JennyPenny736@aim.com
03/08/2010 12:02:04 PM
[ Rider4Life ]
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Beautiful poem |
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to K, What a poignant but beautiful poem. Thank you. PJS
03/08/2010 11:00:30 AM
[ pjs ]
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Rubs |
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So in the last few weeks of winter my horse got a rub on his shoulder and chest from his blanket. The hair is starting to grow back slowly but I was just wondering if anyone had any tips to help it grow back faster?
03/08/2010 10:13:53 AM
[ angelodolce ]
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save our parks |
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We need help trying to save the Long Island Parks that the state is planning to close down. Everyone can help to save our parks by calling your local assemblyman, our local senators, and our governor David A. Paterson. The only way that we can keep these parks open is by raising awareness about the problem and then letting our representatives know about our discontent. Below is the listing of the contact information for our representatives so lets get to work! April 1st is just around the corner!
New York State Assembly:
http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/
Just type in your zipcode on the right to get the information that you need.
NYS Senators:
http://www.nysenate.gov/districts/map/long_island
Governor David A. Paterson:
Nassau County - (516) 934 - 8572
Suffolk County - (631) 952 - 6583
REMEMBER 'EVERY VOICE COUNTS'
03/08/2010 08:13:03 AM
[ wendy@lihorseproperties.com ]
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MY BARN PEOPLE |
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to all my great friends at SUNSHINE STABLES who are now handling everthing,stalls,feeding,hay,grain,great care of my boarders,my soon to be 30 year old MR MAGOO,all this while i am layed up from my second surgery,hope to be back on my feet in 2-3 months,I LOVE YOU GUYS,AND THANKS,dennis
03/07/2010 10:51:09 PM
[ j777oker@rocketmail.com ]
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MJZ Horse Rescue Chinese Auction |
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We are going to be having a Chinese Auction over the summer. We are trying to get people that want to donate any items or gift certificates so that we can make up baskets to raffle off. If anyone is interested in helping with this it would be very much appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Michelle Z.
MJZ Horse Rescue Inc.
You can contact me at mjzhorserescue@optonline.net or 631-878-3949.
03/07/2010 08:35:30 PM
[ Michelle Z. ]
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dressage trainer |
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olde towne equestrian has a dressage trainer. 631-473-2075
03/07/2010 07:25:49 PM
[ oldetownee ]
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And Then They Dance... |
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It's 3 AM and our 14 year old dog is barking aimlessly - to go out..just to get lost in the yard.
She wets my rug..right in front of me.
She has no shame. She's mostly blind.
I'm lucky just to cut the knots out of her coat, and hope she makes it off alive - off the grooming table.
Cortisone flows like wine - for her aches and pains.
Tomorrow will be the last day.
No more.
Tomorrow comes...
She can see me out in the bright sunshine, and she playfully pretends to nip my fingers. She hops back a few steps ...barks....and smiles. One snaggletooth smile.
And then they dance....
The horse is on three legs more than four.
Some days he wheezes like a freight train.
He's 25. He eats Nursing Home mash.
Curls are all over his once sleek coat due to too little thyroid.
His knees are knobby, and he's dog ugly.
He just nipped me in the rear because his feet hurt. A little nip..a please don't hurt me.
He walks like House.
Tomorrow will be the last day.
No more.
Tomorrow comes...
He snuffs my hair and breathes a grassy hello up my nose. He follows me..when he never does.
Out of nowhere, he goes and gives a little buck and rolls, shaking the grass off his wooly coat. He snorts.
And then, they dance....
It's a Chicken! Get over it. She's skinny as a rail, and you haven't seen an egg in months.
The others pick on her now.
The rooster isn't even interested in her anymore, and he's always interested in any gal.
She's lying on the ground now soaking up what sun she can - and a hen passing by pecks her comb.
Her beautiful comb, once bright red, now..almost gone.
Tomorrow will be the last day.
No more.
Tomorrow comes.
She has a burst of energy and delights in finding a night crawler. It hangs from her beak. The others try to rush her - but she remembers. Remembers the spot where the others can't find her. She limps fast.
The rooster leans against her - later in the run... and protects her.... he lashes out at a fresh hen.
An old misshapen egg is found in a nest that only she loved. She settles down on it..hoping.
And then they dance.
Damn cat. Litter box is empty, but my pile of laundry is full.
She can't jump up on her favorite spot anymore, so we lift her.
She wails through the night because she is lost and can't hear us.
If she has five teeth - that's a lot.
We feed all canned food now.
She sleeps all day.
She is twenty one. She's had a good life.
Tomorrow will be the last day.
No more.
Tomorrow comes...
An unraveled string from my pants - trails the floor after my boots. She pounces. She rubs against my leg for the second meal of the day.
Settled on the couch, she makes it up this time, and purrs and sings a lullaby for me and her.
And then they dance.....
KB
03/07/2010 12:08:56 PM
[ k at aol ]
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To: heavensentforever - Re: "Hot Lips" |
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I just read your post from last year about who to avoid at swap meets due to her stealing and reselling your stuff. So I offer you some advice...
How to spot a Crazy:
1) They steal your stuff and try to sell it (she tried to sell me your saddle by the way...)
2) They threaten to sue random horse show moms, and probably everyone else too
3) Addicted to usage of herb, I mean herbs
4) bright red lipstick is usually a dead giveaway
5) they call you in the middle of the night, drunk/high/god knows what, asking you to take over for the 60y/o "girl" that she hired to replace you while you were getting your tonsils out
6) they try to teach a western-broke ranch horse to jump by throwing it over jumps, breaking the jumps and nearly breaking the horses legs
7) they tell you that you dont know how to ride
and my personal favorite:
8) wearing show clothes inappropriate for time period
Hope you get your stuff back eventually. And remember, you can't fix crazy.
-nbotway@gmail.com
03/06/2010 07:25:56 PM
[ Nat ]
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Swap Night keep the date open |
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1ST Annual Swap Night
East End Livestock and Horseman's Association
eelha.org
At Martha Clara Vineyards
Tuesday April 13th
7:00pm-10:00pm
Tables are 10.00 for EELHA members and 15.00 for non members. (bring your own table)
All proceeds go to EELHA Rescue Fund
Wine will be sold by the bottle or glass
Live Music all night.
Come and browse while you enjoy a nice glass of Martha Clara wine.
For tables, call Amy at 631-767-9399 or
Via E-mail at horseplayalc@aol.com
For Directions please visit
www.marthaclaravineyards.com
03/06/2010 06:08:34 PM
[ Azz ]
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King Charles Puppy |
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Thank everyone for your inquiries about the King Charles puppy. A perfect home was found and he is a happy guy!
03/06/2010 11:43:08 AM
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read it like a poem..not mine i copied ad pasted it from soneone.. |
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MADNESS
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Friday, November 27, 2009 at 8:28am
Why do I like horses? I reckon I must be mad. My mother wasn’t horsey And neither was my dad. But the madness hit me early And it hit me like a curse. And I’ve never gotten better In fact I’ve gotten worse. My stables are immaculate. My house is like a hovel. Last year for my birthday I got a brand new shovel. I hardly read a paper But I know who’s sold their horse And I wouldn’t watch the news If Mr. Ed was on, of course. One eye’s always on the heavens But my washing waves in vain As I rush to get the horses in In case it’s gonna rain. And though they’re wearing 15 rugs, The best that you can get, I bring them in to keep them dry While I get soaking wet. I spend up every cent I’ve got On horsey stuff for sure. I buy fancy rugs and fancy rugs, And then I by some more. I should have had that hair cut Or bought that nice blue shirt At least it wouldn’t be n ow Ripped to shreds and in the dirt. I can’t make a bloody sponge cake I don’t even try But I can back a truck and trailer In the twinkling of an eye. It’s pants and R.M. boots That I live in night and day And that smell of sweaty horses Just doesn’t wash away. Once in every… now and then I can dress up for a ball. Make up and a hairdo With high heel shoes and all. I ache from long forgotten falls. My knees have got no skin. My toes have gone a funny shape. >From being squashed again. But late at night, when all is still And I’ve gone to give them hay, I touch their velvet softness And my worries float away. They give a gentle nicker And they nuzzle through my hair And I know it’s where my heart is More than anywhere.
03/06/2010 08:41:23 AM
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SAVE OUR PARKS.... |
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I am organizing a group of people to get petitions out to the community...anyone who is interested in helping should contact me. Wendy@lihorseproperties.com. LETS SAVE OUR PARKS! EVERY VOICE COUNTS!
03/06/2010 07:51:17 AM
[ wendy@lihorseproperties.com ]
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park closings |
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Yep, They have an agenda..If and when our Parks close, Eventually the land will be sold off little by little, piece by piece, UNTIL ALL THE OPEN SPACE IS GONE. We have to do something NOW.
03/05/2010 10:56:07 PM
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Janet Plympton ? |
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I lost her number and her e mail account. Can someone please send it to me private.
Thanks
03/05/2010 10:38:06 PM
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park closings |
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I attended the NYNE meeting at Connetquot this evening, we had a good turnout. We all need to become actively involved and make sure OUR tax monies are used to preserve the parks and beaches on Long Island. A state legislator once told me that the most attention is paid to written letters from individuals and phone calls. Email is good but letters are better. The recent US Supreme Court decision will have a tremendous and damaging effect on our electoral process. There are now virtually no restrictions on the amounts of money banks and other corporations can spend funding candidates. There will be MILLIONS spent on vicious ad campaigns against candidates who are for average working people. The big multinational corporations are solidly against open space preservation, environmental protection and consumer protection regulations. WE need to put apathy and petty differences aside and save our way of life before Long Island is nothing but a sea of traffic, condos and Walmarts. Nobody is going to do it for us. Please stay informed about state and local politics and attend as many rallies and meetings on these issues as you can.
03/05/2010 10:13:45 PM
[ Wendy ]
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ASPCA - CANTER |
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Ponytales. I know this annoye you but the funds go to the NATIONAL CANTER organization and individual CANTER groups can apply for the funds. So no, not the Michigan CANTER solely.
Yes, other groups will also get funds. But they are mostly for ex racers.
CANTER would like to use the funds to rehab horses so they can go on to useful careers.
Several other boards have reported on this topic and none of them report any restrictions on use of the funds to CANTER owned horses only.
I have emailed a friend at the National group for clarification.
But this is the type of program that I have no problem contributing to. The auctions, not so much.
But I'm sure you must have noticed that the intent is to retrain and rehome ex racers BEFORE it gets to the point of the auctions.
So again, retrain, rehome as opposed to hoarding.
03/05/2010 06:20:26 PM
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parks and other issues |
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apparently long island is having some serious issues with state of new york.i'm seeing all these posts about parks being closed and it makes no sence to me. also in my school thers been talk about getting rid of the musical and the one act play festival and jv sports and a lot of the art and music classes. this is all happening becouse the state gives long island school less than half of the money they give the rest of the state!! they seem to think that becouse its longs island and used to be a vacation place for weathy people that we have money and they couldnt be more wrong. everyone is being effected by this reccesion. (my teacher told me this) my school will be writing letters to the state about the budget but i think we should all do something about the parks as well.
03/05/2010 03:27:20 PM
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HELMETS |
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There are soooooooooooooooooooooooo many reasons why people won't wear helmets while riding horses,riding bikes,skateboards skiing etc. The next you go out for a on a horse, a bike, a skateboard,skiing...if another wants to come along wanting to ride his or her horse,skateboard,bike etc....please tell them I love you too much to lose you...WEAR A HELMET!!!!! If they give you an excuse, don't ride with 'em. I know I may start alot of controversy over this, but I stand next to my convictions....I always say....."Just like a seatbelt, a helmet may not save your life, but at least you did your best to protect your head using a astm sei certified helmet while riding a mobile partner...be it a HORSE, A BIKE, A SKATEBOARD...etc....
p.s. for children under the age of 14, it is required that they wear astm sei certified helmets...and still parents don't heed that...doesn't matter the age of a person...it matters that we all want to age..that way we can go on living and enjoying!(:
03/05/2010 03:19:42 PM
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Please wear a Helmet! |
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 I am very saddened of the news I just learned about US Dressage Rider Courney King Dye. She has been hospitalized in Florida with a fractured skull after a fall from a horse she was schooling. She was not wearing a helmet. Please, if any of you have a facebook go to "Pray for Courtney King Dye", become a fan and send well wishes. Donations are also being accepted for her medical expenses as well...
03/05/2010 12:48:55 PM
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Our Parks...A Disgrace. |
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I belong to a photography club, and we were talking about the closing of the parks this week.
This is big trouble.
On Caleb Smith, conjecture is; that condos may go up around the lake. It makes sense as time goes on - and prime real estate sits there.
If Connetoquoit closes during the week, exactly what are the horse owners - who made a specific choice to live there with their equines...supposed to do? The horses are going to go nutty without exercise - if they are trail loving horses...and the owners too.. no doubt ....
"Ah, a long day at work, let me saddle up Louie...uh...no"....
No more smell of salty chlorine at Jones Beach? How utterly sad...such a memory. The roads at West End now are all potholes.
Orient Point..the North End of our Island..closed????
Deer can be pesky critters, but it was so nice to see them back at Caleb after an absence for many years.
No more canoeing down the Nissequogue either?
Yes, we are flooding Congress on this.
Please try to get every person you know to write.
Eleven Million Dollars..no doubt Paterson used more than that for his personal entertainment...sorry.. but that is a mere pittance, to keep our parks open.
I guess the Yankee tickets were more important.
03/05/2010 12:00:48 PM
[ k at aol ]
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Deepest Sympathy |
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Kenny,
So sorry to hear about your mother. Our prayers are with you.
Jewels
03/05/2010 11:36:36 AM
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It appears as though the horse will have a safety net that way. Just dont let anyone else but Bev give you the thumbs up to go ahead and bail him and send him somewhere. There are a lot of scammers out there on that board. I did see you...Destiny (and some numbers). Off to Unadilla tonight, hoping to save at least 1, we still need $300 to pull it off to cover bail, vetting, QT.
03/05/2010 07:14:43 AM
[ ponytales ]
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Dear Kenny,
I am sorry for the loss of your mom. I know how close you were. My heart goes out to you and your children, they lost a great grandmother.
Love,
Sharyn & Dean – Jackie and Jenny
03/04/2010 11:14:43 PM
[ sharyn ]
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Wow, that's interesting info. I did offer to bail the baby haffie on ABR, but it has to go through Bev and contract for a home. I only hope I did the right thing. I have seen your posts there too. I can't wait for my daughter to get her own farm one day (she's a trainer) so we can adopt for her school line. They will be schoolies that will have the lives of kings. My daughter refuses to over work any horses. I think I raised her right. LOL.
03/04/2010 09:50:10 PM
[ lynhad ]
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Wow, that's interesting info. I did offer to bail the baby haffie on ABR, but it has to go through Bev and contract for a home. I only hope I did the right thing. I have seen your posts there too. I can't wait for my daughter to get her own farm one day (she's a trainer) so we can adopt for her school line. They will be schoolies that will have the lives of kings. My daughter refuses to over work any horses. I think I raised her right. LOL.
03/04/2010 09:48:16 PM
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Proposed Parks to Close !! |
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Levy Urges NY Officials to Keep Parks Open via Private Partnerships
Christopher Kent
Chief Deputy
Connie Corso
Deputy Steve Levy
County Executive Ed Dumas
Chief Deputy
Ken Crannell
Deputy
Contact Us: county.executive@suffolkcountyny.gov
Back to County Executive
Levy Urges NY Officials to Keep Parks Open via Private Partnerships
Says Proposed Closure of State Parks Can be Avoided through Private-Sector Role
Hauppauge , NY – Suffolk County Executive Steve Levy is urging New York officials to enlist the private sector to ensure that proposed closures of state parks are averted so that residents can enjoy the full benefits of all state parks facilities.
The State Office of Parks, Recreation, and Historic Preservation today released its recommended list of closures and service reductions “in order to achieve its 2010-11 agency savings target and help address the State’s historic fiscal difficulties.” (See list of targeted Long Island parks, at bottom.)
Levy said state park closures may be able to be avoided if the New York brought in the private sector to run parks facilities. Accordingly, Levy is urging the state to issue a Request for Proposals seeking private-sector bids to operate jeopardized parks.
“The closure of pristine and immensely valued state parks could possibly be averted by allowing private interests to bid to operate these parks,” said Levy. “Such an opportunity could enable these private operators to set admission and concession fees as a way of balancing their financial objectives and ensuring their success.”
As an added attraction, Levy said, private-sector parks operators could be allowed to consider parks sponsorship/naming opportunities as a potential revenue source or to advertise their own name as they choose during the period of operation.
In 2009, state parks and historic sites across the U.S. cut back hours, staffing and services because of state budgets squeezed by the economic downturn. In New York, 100 of the state’s 178 state parks and 35 historic sites reduced services, from closing pools and beaches to shortening hours of operation. But none of the parks or sites closed entirely.
Levy said state officials must act quickly to prevent the following proposed Long Island park closures and service reductions this year, as announced today:
Brookhaven State Park, Suffolk -- Close Park
Bethpage State Park, Suffolk -- Eliminate winter sports, reduce picnic area and polo field
Caleb Smith State Park Preserve, Suffolk -- Close Park
Cold Spring Harbor State Park, Suffolk -- Close Park
Connetquot River State Park, Suffolk -- Close Weekdays
Heckscher State Park, Suffolk -- Close swimming pool
Jones Beach State Park, Nassau -- Close West Swimming Pool, eliminate July 4th fireworks
Montauk Downs State Park, Suffolk -- Close Swimming Pool
Nissequogue River State Park, Suffolk -- Close Park
Orient Beach State Park, Suffolk -- Close Park
Trail View State Park, Suffolk -- Close Park
03/04/2010 09:47:58 PM
[ sharyn ]
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The SPCA did not give "CANTER" 1 million. The SPCA is giving 1 million to various TB retirement and re-homing facilities over the course of several years. CANTER Michigan is one of the recipients and it is NOT for the trainer owned portion of CANTER, it is for the ADOPTION portion of CANTER....those horses go with contracts just like mine and any other rescue.
03/04/2010 09:06:02 PM
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I agree with Ponytales & have seen what goes on at Camelot. The only other auction I haven't been to is Unadilla, but I plan on it at the end of the month. Yes, it surely is tough & a tear jerker at times, but it's gives you a much better perspective once you've attended & then you know most of the "truths" behind the actual auction scene.
There are several reputable rescue groups near me (just 2 hrs from LI) that do attend Unadilla, New Holland & other auctions. They all work together in regularly bailing horses that are desperately in need, some just hrs before the "big truck" leaves for that "place" we all fear of.
All I can say is I commend them for their hard work & efforts day in & day out. If I didn't have a full time job & animals of my own to take care of I'd be right at the front lines.
Also, if you are a private individual, rescue group or a group of ppl wanting to help...make sure you have the funds to fully care for a rescue horse long term, and not just try to get rid of it when things become too expensive (this too I have seen happen). Make sure you have all doors open when helping rescue a horse, it's only fair to the animal. And don't just keep taking in horse after horse because you feel bad for them, but then allow them to sit, watch their feet overgrow, run out of hay, or forget about needed surgical procedures...all things that cost $$$ but all things needed when caring for a large animal. Chipping in & helping rescue organizations is a great thing & I urge more of you to help if you can....Be safe everyone.
03/04/2010 09:03:25 PM
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Hello from Sharyn,
I hope you are all aware that we are in real danger of our parks closing! It is not a joke and this is very real.
Someone sent out this e mail - I was on a mass list of people who received it. The lady who wrote this I will not disclose who she is (she can take credit if she likes). She is very savvy and knows what time of day it is. What she wrote scared me to death.
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In a message dated 3/3/2010 8:44:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
I agree that we should be part of a State iniative, however, keep in mind that the rest of NY State has more land available for agriculture than we have on LI. I believe that the NYS Horse Council advocates 1 horse per acre. That would be a disaster for us here on LI. We need a local voice here on Long Island - whether it's through NSHA or forming a coalition of equine groups in our area.
03/04/2010 08:48:03 PM
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I'm not saying don't bail horses Lynn, BUT I am saying you may want to stick to bailing horses that are going to LEGITIMATE homes. About 60% of those being pulled by a certain "group" are showing up back at other auctions, on Craigs List, or in terribly inadequate homes. Someone that is on another list that I am on had a very good analogy:
I'm a firefighter, I pull you from a burning building and then throw you in front of a tractor trailer traveling at 60 MPH down the highway....am I still a hero since I pulled you from the burning building?
I don't "dislike" Frank, but he is what he is which is a Killbuyer. Unlike most of the other auctions houses (except Sugar Creek) Frank also ships to slaughter and is a dealer, so any horse that goes through his auction is in danger of being shipped to slaughter if the bid is not high enough. At the other auctions there are outside KB's and Dealers there that bid but the owners of the auction houses do not bid and send horses to slaughter.
03/04/2010 08:14:59 PM
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Well it looks like the ASPCA thinks CANTER is doing something right because they just gave them $1MM.
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/aspca-announces-million-dollar-rescuing-racers-initiative-85954517.html
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"Plans include expanding direct intake programs, incorporating physical therapy/rehabilitation programs, renovating facilities to accommodate more horses, creating voucher programs to increase adoptions, and implementing training programs for thoroughbreds to ready them for second careers."
Note the reference to second careers. That should allow a lot more "rinse and repeat' situations.
03/04/2010 07:54:35 PM
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03/04/2010 07:49:17 PM
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Our condolences to Kenny and his family during this difficult time. Our hearts go out to you :o(
03/04/2010 07:18:47 PM
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I have a friend who has a 6 month old pure King Charles Cavalier puppy. Neutered and adorable. Her 3 year old is terribly allergic and she can not keep him. He is white and light brown and very sweet and affectionate. He is good with kids and other animals.
She is only interested in finding a good home and doesnt want money for him. If you are interested, please email me at CDomb@aol.com.
03/04/2010 06:54:39 PM
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i forgot to mention the groups who also fund rais and do mustag awareness and the groups involved with the big auction on ohio..i forget the name of it...but no one has forgotten the other horses at other auctions,,its just that cameot is close for networking and adoption..just logistics thats all
03/04/2010 05:47:27 PM
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Actually, many rescue are invloved in New Holland...i am part of those groups too on fb and ever week there a pictures of horse that are taken from new holland for adoption or pictures of horss from a broker's lot where rescues go to tke pics to post to save the horses..some times we see pics on Fb and no one takes the horse and it does go to canada..but the rescues try..there is al unadilla rescue group too just no pics..like britt said..but the rescue takes whatthey can and then adopts out..i know i tout facebook alot on here but thats how i stay up on the current activities in our horse community..There are also rescue groups on there that are postng bail for cats and dogs on kill shelters across the country..they r bailing out small animals instead of having them gassed,,which is how they eithanize in MANY states..and those groups operate the same as the horse rescue..pics are on there of the cats and dogs too...and just for the record,Frank is not a bad guy..he is not responsible for those horses..he is a business man and wants to see those horses adopted out,,yes he has to keep some in pen #10 so there is a full load for the trucks on sunday but thats the way it goes..he didnt not bring the horses there he is just rnning his business...any horses he does bring in get aucined off to new homes and from there it is STILL not his responsibility,,horses get slaughtered cuz there are too many,,lets do what we can to save what we can ut get over the fact that somewhere some horse is gonna go to slaughter..we cant save them all and its time for everyone to accept that
03/04/2010 05:44:49 PM
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WE ALL NEED TO GET INVOLVED IF WE WANT TO SAVE OUR PARKS FROM CLOSING ON APRIL 1ST.
Please call or email your Senators and Congressmen Don't let them close our parks April 1st!!! Thank you!
To Contact Your Assembly Member: http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/
To Contact Your Senator: http://www.nysenate.gov/contact_form
To Contact the Governor: http://www.ny.gov/governor/contact/index.html
This Facebook Page seems to have all of the up to the minute information. You do not have to be a member of Facebook to view updates.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/SAVE-LONG-ISLAND-PARKS/303205487420
03/04/2010 05:13:10 PM
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I'm not sure why you took that as a direct attack... beg my pardon? sounds like your the only one going there. I was just saying its silly how camelot is the only one getting attention.
03/04/2010 04:20:20 PM
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OK- I am confused. Please educate me. From your post it sounds like you do not like Frank? Not that I blame you, but at least at Camelot the horses get a chance to be saved? Where at New Holland and Unadilla any horses not bought on the spot ship straight to slaughter? Am I getting this right? When I read some of the people taking horses fron Camelot they seem pretty legit. At least I pray that they are. I would hate to bail one only to have it end up in another bad situation. Should I not bail? I am crying over #383. Halflinger baby. I would even pay for future gelding for him as someone I spoke to said they are only taking fillies because the extra cost in gelding. Please get back with the answers. Your #1 fan.
03/04/2010 03:51:09 PM
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Our condolences to Ken Schwamb and family on the loss of their Mother. Services Friday at Raynor & D'Andrea Funeral Home 245 Montauk Highway West Sayville, 2:00 to 4:30 and 7 to 9:30pm
03/04/2010 03:27:24 PM
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Sorry that this really isn't horse re-lated at all, but I was wondering if anyone knew if there was any laws against keeping a duck in the Town of Islip? I am interested in getting a duckling during the Spring and I'm not having much luck finding laws about keeping one. Thanks in advance!
03/04/2010 03:08:51 PM
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I beg your pardon but I have been rescuing horses at Unadilla for a very long time. Long before people decided to throw money at Frank Carper and send the "rescued" horses off to god knows where. Infact I am scheduled to got to Unadilla tomorrow, just like I did 2 weeks prior and will every other Friday. The reason why people do not do this at Unadilla and New Holland are because Unadilla and New Holland auctions are not owned by a Dealer/Kill Buyer. The Chambers boys dont buy up horses at their auction to ship to slaughter, once in a while they may buy a quality horse for their personal use or resale down the line. You either buy the horse in the ring at Unadilla or it is lost, there is no week to take pictures (which are strictly forbidden at both Unadilla and New Holland BTW), descriptions, and beg for people to send money. You need to go to the sale, money in hand, trailers in tow and stalls waiting for QT. We pulled 8 horses 2 weeks ago and had no empty spots left in our barns or trailers.
03/04/2010 02:22:15 PM
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I am posting this for a friend who found a Beagle type dog and must find a home for it. He has 2 large dogs and just can't take on another pet. The dog has a micro-chip, he was adopted out of Riverhead Shelter. When the owner was contacted by the shelter they said they didn't want him any longer :( My friend was told to bring him to Brookhaven Shelter-not an option. He has contacted all the local no-kill shelters and none of them can take him at this time.
He is a sweet dog, probably less than a year old and very shy. I just think he needs to be socialized and trained.
If anyone is interested in this sweetie please contact me. I can e-mail pictures.
03/04/2010 11:45:52 AM
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03/04/2010 11:00:39 AM
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I wanted to share another look on the contract department for rescues. You may approve a home, have a signed contract. Then a few months down the line you go to check up on them and find a boarded up house and that they picked up, took the horse with them. Nothing you can do. By the time you can even re-locate them (pretty much slim to none chance) the horse could already have been re-sold, sent to auction, numerous things can, and HAVE happened. So what do you do? You sue them , hire some one to track them down ? That doesn't help the horse if its already gone. Contracts don't protect any horse 100%. I never adopt or even sell a horse without a contract and i keep in touch through email every so many weeks etc. which becomes harder the more horses you have helped. but people loose touch.. get busy .. so many things are possible this day and age. no one cares if their signature is on some paper. once the horse is gone its gone... nothing you can do . Its sad but its the truth.
All of my rescues, and horses i have sold, are all exactly where they were moved too from here. All very happy and healthy. I couldn't have gotten better homes. They all have contracts and they all email or call me from time to time. I visit them when i can, but not to the point of being annoying or prying. out of all the horses i've helped only one had to be 'siezed' and i took him back home, and with a few months of loving care again, got him a great home. Dropping in on a un-announced visit,is a reason a lot of ppl wont adopt and i've had ppl tell me that. they look at it as theyre keeping YOUR horse and feeding it and loving it , that one day you could decide you want it back or come stop by when ever you want and 'bother' them. Its a privacy thing, neverming nothing to hide.. I know the feeling it gets really annoying.. But its in the animals best intrest to ensure its being cared for as agreed but as i said most rather no strings attached. Im rambling now so i'll stop . Not posting this to cause back and fourth arguments but its the simple truth.
I wish i could save every horse from the kill pen every week but its an impossible task for all of us. Half of these horses will end up right back there, or on craigslist like a lot already have. Its mean, its sad to say but its the sad truth. These people need to take responsibility for their animals. not just horses.. And camelot is not the only kill auction so i want to know why no ones going to new holland, or unidilla or any of these other auctions and doing this... camelot is nothing special. i think its really unfair to the other horses in the other auctions to be shipped out b/c so many ppl are doing this for ONE auction. Granted you can only do so much but why dont some of these people spread out... new holland and unidilla arent TOO much further from camelot. Its a lot to take on to begin with but just food for thought.
Enjoy this wonderful weather we have today with the horse(s) you love. I look at the pages w. the pictures of these lost sould, and as much as it brings tears to my eyes, i walk out back and kiss my two rescues that are both safe and already been through hell.
And please, Remember don't take on a rescue if you cannot handle it. What you get is not always what they tell you it is. And thats a FACT.
03/04/2010 10:53:38 AM
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Any donkey lovers out there? Five young ones in kill pen at Camelot. Also, Halflinger ponies. Really nice looking ponies. probably make nice school ponies. Someone said they were quiet and laid back while being ridden. Go to NJFeedlot website for descriptions and pics.
03/04/2010 10:01:20 AM
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Just a different point of view.
Rescues have no guarantee that whoever 'adopts' from them will keep the horse forever. And in fact, it may not be in the horses best interest. If they can be placed in a show home they will likely get better vet, farrier and nutrituional support then they would in a backyard setting. Simply because a good trainer will have more experience in horse care. Shoe horses are well taken care of.
If an individual adopts and has a budget that only allows them to keep one horse then that's it. They won 't be adopting anymore horses for the life of the one they have.
If a trainer purchases a Canter horse they put some training on it and sell it for hopefully a profit. They reinvest the initial outlay into another OTTB./ Rinse and repeat. Over the lifetime of one horse they may have helped 20 horses instead of one.
Limited resources requires creative thinking. And it's good publicity for CANTER and the trainer.
Many rescues are asking for funds. Some of them are hoarders. They never adopt or sell or place anything. Maybe out of a misguided or uneducated position that they don't trust anyone else to do the right thing.
Seriously, if you are taking in more horses then you can place your policies need to be reviewed or you are taking horses that woild be better served with a quick euth.
03/04/2010 08:12:36 AM
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There are 48 horses available now at the Camelot Auction feedlot.
There are a lot of REALLY nice horses there.
NJ-FEEDLOT-HORSE-RESCUE.COM has pictures and brief descriptions. There is also transport and quarantine info there as well.
Spring is coming. Take a look to see if there is a project horse there that you can take a chance on.
The economy has affected us all. The horses are no different. Some of these guys ended up in the feedlot because their owners were affected by the economy. Take a chance and save a life.
03/04/2010 07:33:21 AM
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Years ago looked at a great house and barn in the town of Brookhaven. I remember hearing you could not have any split hooved animal. I know Town of Islip is less restrictive. Good Luck!
Dot sonedazefarm@aol.com
03/04/2010 07:15:52 AM
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The Camelot Auction has left 47 horses in the kill pen tonight. This is the largest number that we have seen in a long time. Many rescues and people are networking to find homes. As always we have until Sat. to save them. If you want to foster a horse from the kill pen for Project Sage (PLEASE) or adopt from the pen please contact me ASAP. There are about 10 Haffies, a Perch, ponies, large "hubby" type horses and many others. Some very nice horses in this bunch.
Thank you,
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sportie1030@aol.com
03/03/2010 11:11:00 PM
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Canter is a posting site that facilitates OTTB to private homes. If you purchase a horse through the owner listed, that is usually it. Finished, done. There are some horses that Canter purchases themselves to keep out of slaughter and those that are adopted out do have a contract as well as references checked. I have two of them.
03/03/2010 08:05:51 PM
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Does any one know the law on having a goat? the town is trying to tell us we cant have out goat, that your not allowed what so ever to own one in the town of brookhaven. We asked about the permit/licensing they said they no longer do that. so i want to know if any one knows b/c this is really rediculous.
also they said we cant have female ducks... only males.. any one know? ALSO no that i have, no llamas,alpacas, sheep NOTHING is allowed..
i cant wait to move off LI they are pushing EVERYTHING off.
03/03/2010 06:47:03 PM
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03/03/2010 03:07:38 PM
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Thank you to Gracie Girl`s friend for trusting me with her Baby.
~Deb
03/03/2010 01:18:04 PM
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If you get a horse from CANTER and you decide to sell it, you are supposed to call CANTER and let them know. That was my experience and things may have changed. CANTER horses get a second chance, but they do not have a contract or a real safety net.
Rescue horses should have a contract between the adopter and the rescue. This gives the rescue horse a safety net -- if an adopter falls on hard times and can't keep the rescue horse they are bound by contract to return the horse to the rescue. This is to protect the horse.
This is a very hard time for many horse owners across the U.S. -- there are so many horses that are falling onto hard times through no fault of their own. When people are losing their homes, having problems feeding their families, have lost their jobs, the horse (who is considered a luxury now) has to go. If they can't find a buyer and they can't find a rescue to take them the can very well end up at auction. These are sad times - support legitimate horse rescues.
03/03/2010 01:10:30 PM
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Thank you Ponytales for finding me that perfect little mini! She is so much fun to have around.
Gracie Girl, look forward to meeting you
~Deb
03/03/2010 01:07:08 PM
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Does anyone know where I can find horse quality round bales of hay? Also, looking for a good veterinarian in the Bohemia area. Thanks!
03/03/2010 12:44:24 PM
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With the proposed closing of NYS parks, or limiting Equine use of the parks, it has become obvious that we, the Equine Community need to unite and show our legislators and politicians that we are a strong and unified group.
Please join the FaceBook page "Long Island Equine Coalition" to show our numbers.
This group is for all Long Island, NY Horse People and those that support LI Horse People. We are a force to be reckoned with because of our numbers and the dollars we spend right here on Long Island. No matter what your discipline, we need a united voice for the Equine Community here on Long Island
Copy and paste this link into your browser:
http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=338832534042&ref=search&sid=1261550546.1544504118..1
03/03/2010 09:34:11 AM
[ angelashorses ]
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Classical Equitation Clinic with Craig Stevens: March 25 – March 27 |
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There are still a few riding spots left for the Craig Stevens Classical Equitation Clinic at Caumsett Park. Discover this light harmonious way of riding, as the masters did it in classical times. Find the responsive, willing horse you always wanted, lurking inside your own horse, with this lovely method of communication between horse and rider. Learn to take equitation down to its simplest elements and then build it back up to something truly elegant. It’s all about the quest for lightness, just as the old masters rode years ago.
Come and ride with us, and share this journey of discovery!
See my classified ad and the events page for more information. Check out the National School of Academic Equitation website at: http://www.classical-equitation.com/aboutcraigstevens.htm
Curious? Come to the Theory Lecture March 25th and see what it’s all about.
RSVP and more information: mccotters@oldwestbury.edu
03/03/2010 09:29:40 AM
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Wondering if anybody out there has 2 panels of corral fencing that they would like to sell. Thanks. You can Email or post here.
03/03/2010 08:53:29 AM
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Is that true about the $75 fine? The park is closed on Mondays now and we still ride in there without a problem.
03/03/2010 06:05:37 AM
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03/02/2010 10:35:52 PM
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Wendy I agree with you 100%... I have a corgi who i bought from a breeder who i found, and went above and beyond!! she had the bitch and she bred to the best dog she could find for her.. I was asked about my home and previous animals and then i was invited into her home to come meet the puppies and her brood of corgis since she rescued and fostered corgis. When i picked my puppy and gave her my deposit I was told there was a neuter/spay contract and i would not be given his AKC papers till she received a fax from my vet that he was neutered, then i was told i could come when he was 10 weeks and she never ever let her puppies go before then. When i came 4 weeks later to come pick him up i was given a folder of all things corgi and she told me that no matter what if i could one day no longer afford him, take care of him or anything that would make me give him up to contact her and she would take him in and either rehome him or keep him no matter how old he was..She also had the bitch OFA, CERF and other genetic testing done and the dog also had the same(it was included in my folder but also available to me when i contacted her originally).. I still have the records.. 7 years later I still talk with my corgis breeder and give her updates on him, and since then she has only had 4 litters(with 2 different bitches)she also spays her bitches after 4 or 5 years old..
My other dog a lab mix is a Huntington pound rescue who i walked in the shelter one day on a whim and as soon as i turned the corner i knew she would be mine forever and 9 years later she is still my little girl....
LOL i think i lost track of what i was going to say but the point is do your research on breeders and make sure you go to the breeders home and see the conditions.. and when it comes to rescues.. go to the pounds those dogs and cats need you the most because they have an expiration date stamped to their forehead...
03/02/2010 09:50:38 PM
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Thank you so much for finding a wonderful home for my friends mini.I heard she is having a ball where she is living now.I'm suppose to go and see her next week can't wait.
03/02/2010 07:56:06 PM
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Pawing is sometimes your horses way of telling you something. I'm bored, I don't have enough turn out time, I need more hay to munch on if you're going to lock me up for hours at a time etc. One of my horses would start pawing in the wash stall after 10 minutes...he was just bored and wanted me to hurry a little. Yes he was told to stop, but you get the picture...it was his way of talking. This was the same horse that pawed the second I got to the barn because he was excited to go ride. I always find more turnout and more hay cuts down on many of the undesirable things horses do. Of course you may already have these things in place. Just some suggestions...hope it helps a little.
03/02/2010 07:29:47 PM
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For the horse that paws... if putting down rubber mats doesn't work, there is a product which consists of a 1 piece stall 'mattress' system that you can install which attaches to the walls and a horse cannot shift:
http://comfortstall.com/CS_Products_Comfortstall.html
After some shopping around, I just purchased it myself recently bc my horse has developed hock sores & I preferred not to go the 10"-of-bedding route. If you call the company they will send you samples of the product. The rubber top cover is quite durable, but you can double ck with the company to verify if it would be OK for heavy pawers.
I've heard positive results for it helping horses with recurrent hock sores at least, & am very optimistic about that! Good luck.
03/02/2010 05:37:10 PM
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After working in 2 very large ER animal hospitals on LI I can tell you that we treated MANY puppies and dogs from this place. We also did have one come in with Distemper, who ultimately died despite her owners best efforts (they only owned her 48 hours before she was brought in). Many came in with parvo, and pneumonia. It would costs these people THOUSANDS to treat these poor sick puppies and most of the times they died anyway.
03/02/2010 03:28:29 PM
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The reason we do not "sell" horses is because when we rescue a horse we take on a lifetime commitment to keeping that horse safe. If we were to sell it to a trainer who then sold it to a client, how would we be able to make sure it stayed safe? What if it became injured and the client dumped it at an auction? How did we do that horse any justice then? There are plenty of org's that promote horses for sale, like Canter so if a trainer is looking for sale projects then those are the places to go- Canter, the auctions, Craigslist, etc.
03/02/2010 03:21:13 PM
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I've had many people try to "buy" horses from my rescue. My anwser is always no. The point of my rescue is keep these horses safe forever. If you train it and sell it to a "good home" you never know what happens to the horse in 20 years. I keep track of all my horses. I promise to them the day they step off the trailer that they will never be in danger again.
If I sold horses I should call myself a broker not a rescue...
I've seen many of the CANTER horses end up in kill pens weeks after they are bought. It's a great program but not all of those horses have happy endings.
In order to keep my horses safe they go out under a contract, no exceptions.
03/02/2010 03:05:53 PM
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My horse has a "pawing" problem and stands at the front of his stall destroying it. He makes huge holes! Im afraid he will hurt himself honestly. Ive just recently put down a very large thick mat so he couldn't dig himself into a hole. However, from him being so large and digging for such a long period of time, no matter how much i fill the hole under the mat he still stands in a ditch/hole .. any suggestions? How do I correct this hole problem I am having.. ?? It really is a pain. :-(
03/02/2010 02:46:43 PM
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We got our dog from Kent Animal Shelter (Calverton) 10 yrs ago and every single time we take her out someone asks "What kind of dog is that?" because she is unique, and she is a mutt. Kent pulled her from the Riverhead pound (a kill pound), she was a stray found on the highway. It would almost be worth doing genetic testing on her to see what mix she is, but it would only serve to satisfy my curiosity, since I wouldn't try to breed her "mix" when there are so many adoptable animals needing homes. She is a wonderful loyal pet, and there are many like her waiting for homes, so just give the small shelters and pounds a try. She still runs around like a puppy at 11 or 12 yrs old! Our cat came from Southampton Animal Shelter, he's great, and recently we got another kitten from bideawee. Turned out he's deaf (white cat...)but he is such a funny cat, he thinks he's a dog, and we are entertained daily by his antics. I would never have gotten a deaf cat had I known, but we are so bonded with this sweet cat now we can't imagine not having him. So, my experience with shelters has been all positive in the long run!
03/02/2010 02:16:57 PM
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As a veteran rescuer, I have personally rescued 1000+ dogs in 30 years. I have a few thoughts on this thread. I believe the best resource is petfinder.com. You can locate town shelters, private no-kill shelters and small rescue operations and individuals that house dogs in private homes. On Long Island we have many no kill shelters- Little Shelter, Last Hope, Kent, ARF, Bide-a-Wee, For Our Friends and others. There are dozens of breed specific and all breed rescue groups. The breed rescues can also sometimes recommend a breeder if you must have a puppy, or at least tell you who to avoid. Many breeders have slick, fancy websites with gorgeous photos, but are essentially backyard puppy mills with sickly dogs.
This whole idea that a "private breeder" = a quality puppy is patently false. Especially in the case of toy breeds, that nice suburban home may literally have 40-50 debarked dogs living in cramped, filthy cages in the basement. My albeit jaded opinion is that maybe 10% of breeders are ethical and legitimate. A good breeder takes a lifetime interest and responsibility for every puppy they produce. They will always take it back and rehome it, even 10 years later. They do not sell pups younger than 8 weeks and they carefully screen and question buyers and use a contract. The parents have extensive breed specific health testing- at the very least OFA (for med/large breeds) and CERF. A good breeder frequently does not have the sire on premises. They bring the bitch to the best male they can find. A good breeder is an active member of the local and National Clubs for their breed. They do more than just crank out litters. They don't have more than 2 or 3 breeds. I also believe that an ethical breeder should be involved in rescue for their breed, even if its just to make a donation. For every puppy sold, a rescue dog loses a potential home. Puppy buyers need to do their homework instead of impulse buying. Purebreds have many many more medical issues than mixed breeds. For instance, a full 50% of Cavalier King Charles Spaniels are dead of heart disease by age 5. If a breeder tells you their breed or their lines have no problems at all, they are lying. Make sure you can meet the needs of your chosen breed- its exercise, training, grooming, dietary and medical needs. Just because a dog is cute does not mean its suitable for you. Go deeper than age and appearance. Lastly, please don't buy the false media hype that pits and pit mixes are not good family pets. Some have dog aggression but many do not. They have less human aggression statistically than many other breeds, including Cockers, Poodles and Shepherds. They are extremely loyal, very intelligent and very easy to train. They need help more than any other breed.
03/02/2010 02:09:18 PM
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It's funny how things about "that BIG shelter" are....There are constant rants on CL about them, but I always took it waith a grain of salt because some people have too much time on their hands and spend their day flaming people on there. It is interesting how the folks HERE have had similiar experiences! We went "there" when we were looking, and they have so many volunteers rotating in and our that people really dont know the personalities of the dogs except for what is written on their cards. We just didnt feel comfortable with that, even though the dogs probably were just fine. We went to Little Shelter and were QUITE happy with them, but we were NOT happy with their process for placing dogs (we were "denied" because we didnt have a fenced in yard) even though my husband and I had years of unfenced in dog experience. I get that they have to "weed" people out, but we were the wrong folks to "weed" out. Subsequently, 9 years later, not only do we have a fence, but a horse and goats as well.
We wound up getting our guy via the League for Animal Protection - they work out of the Huntington Shelter which IS a kill shelter, but volunteers would come in on a regular basis (the same volunteers) and work with the dogs so that they can be adopted. We explained what we were looking for, and the volunteer knew what dog would work for us . Granted, she probably didnt know all the dogs in the shelter, but out of the dogs she worked with regularly, she could choose one for us. Our old man is now 11 and enjoying his later years with us, just as much as we have enjoyed the 10 years with him!!
03/02/2010 01:41:14 PM
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Growing up in my family once an animal walked or was carried into our yard, it stayed until it died of old age. That's how we were raised and that's what we still do.
I'm never going to forget the look on my brother's face when he was told he couldn't have that sick black little puppy. I argued with two different managers and got nowhere. I asked if I could adopt the pup was told I could but if I did and gave it to my brother I would be fined $10,000 for fraud.
We had tried Kent,Smithtown and Brookhaven shelters before he gave up. The pup he has now (a beautiful Husky) is spoiled rotten, I pick him up, bring him to my house to play with my girls, then my brother comes to get him.
It breaks my heart to see how animals are treated, how many need homes.....how many die because of stupid rules, breed reputation, ignorance, greed....it's disgusting.
03/02/2010 01:23:07 PM
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I got 2 purebred pomeranians from Huntington Dog Pound in Northport. They are the light of my life. I kept on going there until I found the dogs I wanted. Will never buy another dog! That's just my personal preference. Had dealings with the "larger rescue". They are always "full", never available to take an animal in need.
03/02/2010 12:08:12 PM
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There are other shelters on Long Island besides the Big One. I worked at Kent in Calverton for years and they hav many wonderful dogs and cats for adoption and they are a no kill! I would check them out if you are looking to adopt.
03/02/2010 12:00:01 PM
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I also had a very bad experience with that certain well-known large shelter years ago. I adopted a beautiful sweet little terrier type girl who was about 6-8 months old. Two days later, she wouldn't eat and was so sick I brought her to my vet. His immediate diagnosis after one look and a description of her symptoms - distemper. He told me to take her back because it would cost a fortune to treat and he wasn't sure he could even save her. And, don't even think about taking in another dog for at least 6 months because the germs would still be in the house. THEIR vet laughed and said she only has worms, she's had all her vaccines so it can't be distemper. I left her with them to be treated. I called twice a day for 3 days to see how she was - the staff kept telling me she's doing fine. On the 4th day, I called to see when I could pick her up and was told that she was put down. "Why?" I asked. "Oh, she had distemper and was dying so we put her to sleep". Guess the person that answered the phone that day didn't know the script for callers. To make things worse, 3 and 6 months later, I got follow-up calls to "see how my new puppy was doing".
I later adopted from a private rescue. My current dog was adopted from Little Shelter in Huntington. The staff there took the time to find out about my lifestyle and work, how big my house and yard were, other pets I had, etc. so they could advise me on what adult dogs they had that might be possible matches. They even "cat-tested" one of the dogs I considered adopting the first trip I made there because I have 2 senior indoor cats. When I finally chose a puppy who was cat-friendly, they checked with my vet and two dog-owner friends to make sure I took care of my pets before completing the adoption. I've had several friends also adopt from Little Shelter, both dogs and cats, and so far all of us are happy with our adopted pets.
03/02/2010 11:47:26 AM
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Regarding big show barns bringing their horses to auctions: You are correct about that. They also get dumped after summer camps end, but at a recent Camelot auction, a beautiful healthy horse was dropped off by her owner because she had a baby and the horse had to go. She knew it could possibly end up on the meat truck. The horse did end up in the feedlot but was thankfully rescued. I check the posts at Camelot on Wednesday nites now, and it is very draining to see these poor horses, ponies and mules looking a bit confused and thrown in together when they are sometimes kicked and bit. As soon as finances pick up, I will be helping to bail horses from Camelot, so far they have all been saved for about eight or nine weeks in row now. I know there has been much controversy about horse slaughter, as many pro slaughter arguments say they will have excess of horses. They also compare other livestock to being killed for meat and this is where I have a problem. Show me a cow that gave hundreds of kids riding lessons for years and years. Or that show pony that took it's rider to blue ribbons. The camp horses that did endless trail rides for yahoo weekend riders. The Amish are always dumping their used up plow and buggy horses for slaughter. The whole concept of horses meeting their end in a miserable inhumane way after years of service for humans is beyond my comprehension.
03/02/2010 10:38:40 AM
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On March 3 legislators need to hear that parks are important to you!
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Here are two things you can do:
Come to a rally at noon in Albany
Call or email your legislators
If we all act, we can win the battle to keep parks open. Imagine if legislators heard from only a fraction of the 56 million park users!
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Save Our State Park Rally
12:00 Noon
West Capitol Park, Swan Street Steps.
View park map
If you can't come to Albany, you can still make a big difference.
Call or email your Assemblyperson and State Senator
It will only take a few minutes but it will make a huge impact.
Here's a sample phone script and email message .
THE BOTTOM LINE MESSAGE: Restore $11 million to the State Parks budget to prevent park closings!
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Please show your support of parks on March 3!
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For more information 518-434-1583, ptny@ptny.org
>>>Note: 11,000,000 dollars...a drop in the bucket compared to what we owe. What a shame. Just my thoughts.<<< K
03/02/2010 09:56:26 AM
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I'm reading that Connetquot is slated to be closed during the week, if the idiot in Albany has his way. Does that mean no trail riding allowed during the week?? Its bad enough that they want to shut these parks down, but for them to make it no riding either during the week, its just ridiculous. So i was just curious if anyone knew if we could still ride. Not that it matters, i'd still ride there anyway. They're gonna have to call a cop to have me arrested, because i'm not gonna stop riding in there. Knowing that the idiot is not running for re election, there has to be something we can do, other than the rally's.
03/02/2010 09:45:56 AM
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95% of the time the horses at auctions are not brought there by their owners. When owners cant keep a horse anymore they often "retire" it to a school program or maybe they sell or give it to a local sale barn. They might be told what a wonderful home their horse is going to "out west" or something along those lines. The owners often believe what they are told and never follow up. In reality the horse will be brought right to a sale or worked for a few years and then brought to a sale. The places doing this are not secret, hidden barns. They are the ones many Long Islanders ride and show at! People assume that because they are well known barns or because they have helped horse rescues, they would only be telling the truth. I no longer associate with barns like that and I wish that others would consider asking questions and actually following up! So in reality many people that talk about how horrible sales/slaughterhouses are, have actually (unknowlingly) sent their own horse there.
03/02/2010 09:42:11 AM
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Aww that's so sad that they wouldnt let him adopt it. A friend of mine had trouble adopting a kitten from a shelter. They didntlike that he worked 8 hours a day. But if one doesnt work how dos wone pay for the adopted animal and the home you both live in? Ridiclous!. I always adopt my pets, however, my heeler did come from a lady in Virginia who does alot of horse trading up in NY and breeds heelers for fun. He didnt cost anymore than what it would have cost to adopt a dog and she has somoeone drop the puppies off at new holland for adoption. So i felt like i was kinda saving a pup from an unsure home even though he did come from a breeder. I know someone who knows the lady and she is not a puppy mill. I felt kind of bad for buying this dog and i wont do it again. But in my defense, ALL my animals includng my horses have been rescues. And buying my heeler was nice cuz we got a call on a thursday saying pups were coming in to hew holland on sunday and our friend could pick him up with a load of horses coming upstate. So we said yes, paid the money and got the puppy by monday i mean, not sunday. Anyway, please adopt and neuter. Thanx =)
03/02/2010 08:33:37 AM
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That Very Large Shelter on LI.....
I've also had two bad experiences with them and a friend of mine had a nightmare trying to adopt a companion pet for her mother.
Another friend saw a dog on their website that she liked. When she went in to get the dog it wasn't available and all they wanted to show her was pit bull mix puppies. Bait and Switch. And in all cases after being rude and refusing to allow an adoption they had the nerve to ask for donations. They adopt out very few animals.
They've declined me because I had a pet die. Yes, two dogs died of old age and I've had a few horses die (because I keep many of my retired horses for the rest of their life).
They've also declined me because I limp slightly when tired and I'm retired.
Although they do have a nice blurb about connecting with Seniors they really don't do any of that stuff.
I'll be purchasing a dog in the near future from a breeder. No wacky shelters for me.
Question for Horse Rescues
Why do you not allow clients to buy horses? You are losing a large market by this practice. If a trainer could buy a horse, put some training on it and sell it to a show home they could simply repeat the process with the proceeds of the horse they just sold. Many horses could be helped this way with only a small capital outlay.
This is why show trainers in most cases will have nothing to do with rescues and instead buy from CANTER trainer listings if they are looking for an OTTB as a show prospect.
This type of relationship would be good advertising for a rescue. Lots of success stories and repeat clients.
03/02/2010 07:19:39 AM
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Any of the town shelter's would have adopted to your brother in a heartbeat. I agree with you about some rescues. I've had a great pet person been turned down for adoption because they had declawed cats at home. Are they kidding? I had a neighbor be denied adoption from a rescue because he had adopted a dog from North Shore a year previous and returned it because it wasn't working out in his home. That does happen. There are great rescues, and some that are just too picky. If your brother had persisted, I'm sure he would have been able to find a rescue begging to adopt to him. My three cats and my horse are all adopted from rescues.
03/02/2010 06:11:29 AM
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I don't know anything about Last Chance Shelter,but a well know large shelter here on LI is just one big money maker for it's corporate bigwigs. It is very rich. It is a Long Island Shelter that should be helping Long Island homelss animals until we have no more homeless animals here. Instead, they go and get animals from remote places due to their notariety,and get TONS of donations from all over the country. They claim to be a no kill shelter too. No, they don't kill the animals that don't adopt out,they send them to the POUND!!!! Don't support these money suckers. Support your small local,private rescues. there are many people who rescue who are not looking to do anything but SAVE THE ANIMALS!!!Many rescues shoot themselves in the foot. They deny very eligible adopters. Shame on them. Every adoption won't work out,but it's worth a try at least. Every dog or cat won't fit into every situation and it might be a mismatch at times,but letting a good home go is preposterous. The rescues must have an open policy to take back any animal that doesn't fit in. That doesn't mean another one won't. A good breeder will take back any dog that doesn't work out for any reason. They can even guarantee what you are getting. There is also a reason for good breeders of quality dogs with good temperaments. Everyone has the right to get what they want, just a buddy or a special type of buddy.
03/02/2010 12:41:45 AM
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SWAP MEET - The East End Livestock & Horseman Assoc. is having the first annual swap meet! At Martha Clara vineyards, shop and wine while listening to music. Tuesday April 13th, 7-10PM. Tables are $10.. for EELHA members and $15.00 for non-members. Come enjoy some wine, music and horse supply bargains!Call Amy at 631-767-9399 or e-mail - horseplayalc@aol.com. For directions visit MarthaClaravineyards.com.
03/01/2010 09:28:20 PM
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I have nothing against shelters, I have four dogs three of which are rescues from various places. But however my brother did have a problem adopting from North Shore and Last Chance Animal rescue.
We went to North Shore first, he found a puppy he fell in love with. It was sick but he was willing to take it anyway despite eye infectionsm resperatory infections and a skin problem. he wanted that pup. We filled out the forms and was told he was DENIGHED!
My brother is 57 years old, has worked in the same place for well over 30 years, owns his own home, his backyard is fenced with a six foot stockade and cemented behind it is a chainlink fence. He was denighed because 25 YEARS ago he had a dog that wasn't nuetered. He hasn't had another dog since then.
Last Chance told him no because he works an 8 hour day and didn't care he works locally and can go home whenever he wanted.
We did check out the pounds, but as you said we found mostly pits or pit mixes. He finally bought a dog from a private home and is at last happy. He had wanted to save a life as I drum into everyone that's looking for a new family member, but what can an honest animal loving person do if they get told NO, you can't adopt you live alone, work, had a full bred whole dog a lifetime ago and want another dog to love?
Buy one. Last option.
We went to a private home, no puppy mill. I wouldn't allow him to purchase from a store and pay those outrages prices for sickly pups. His dog will have the life of royalty, too bad the pup he wanted from North Shore, the sick one will never find a home. Who after all wants a sick pup?
He did.
03/01/2010 04:24:10 PM
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Thank you leigh for your story and you deserve a hug, the animals all know that smell of death.Everyone should save one animal, than perhaps we will not have so many and also practice, spay and neuter and limit horse breeding as well.
03/01/2010 04:21:19 PM
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